CIA deputy director Gina Haspel, who was responsible for some but not all dubious interrogations at a “black site” in Thailand. Photo: CIA
ProPublica: Correction: Trump’s Pick to Head CIA Did Not Oversee Waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah
ProPublica erred when it reported in 2017 that Gina Haspel was in charge of a secret prison in Thailand during the infamous interrogation of an al-Qaida suspect.
On Feb. 22, 2017, ProPublica published a story that inaccurately described Gina Haspel’s role in the treatment of Abu Zubaydah, a suspected al-Qaida leader who was imprisoned by the CIA at a secret “black site” in Thailand in 2002.
The story said that Haspel, a career CIA officer who President Trump has nominated to be the next director of central intelligence, oversaw the clandestine base where Zubaydah was subjected to waterboarding and other coercive interrogation methods that are widely seen as torture. The story also said she mocked the prisoner’s suffering in a private conversation. Neither of these assertions is correct and we retract them. It is now clear that Haspel did not take charge of the base until after the interrogation of Zubaydah ended.
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Update: CIA Nominee Gina Haspel Actually Did Not Supervise the Agency’s Most Notorious Use of Waterboarding (NYMag).
WNU Editor: Regular reader Robert gave me a heads-up on this story this morning. ProPublica made the claim last year that Gina Haspel was the CIA officer responsible for the CIA torture of Abu Zubaydah and one other detainee in Thailand. When she was nominated to be the next CIA Director by President Trump ..... every news organization used ProPublica's report from last year detailing this claim. Last night ProPublica came out and posted a retraction of their 2017 story .... labeling it as false. But if you do a Google search right now .... every major news organization .... AP, Reuters, New York Times, Washington Post, The Guardian, BBC, CBC, etc. .... they are still covering the story that she oversaw the CIA's torture program in Thailand. Even posting stories after ProPublica's retraction repeating the claim .... a claim that I must repeat again is completely false. Fake news .... you betcha.
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However, ProPublica’s correction does not completely get Haspel off the hook. The New York Times has reported that she arrived to run the black site prison in late October 2002, after the interrogation of Zubaydah, but before the arrival of another al-Qaida suspect, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who was, the paper writes, waterboarded three times on her watch. ProPublica also stood by its report that Haspel later drafted a cable ordering the destruction of videotapes of Zubaydah’s waterboarding, a claim confirmed by former acting director of the CIA Michael Morrell.
Gina Haspel should have directed Abu Zubaydah's interrogation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Zubaydah
I provided the above link for silly liberals, who are clueless about the ways of the world.
Maybe liberals think that instead of waterboarding, Zubaydah should have been provided the Monica treatment.
Why can't you stay on topic? We get it, you want to re-fight WWII.
Anyway Fred pretty much said what I was going to post. I'd like to see the record set straight, but she is nowhere near off the hook. ".... a claim that I must repeat again is completely false. Fake news .... you betcha." Nope, they made a mistake and fixed it. Can't say the same for Fox News or the White House. And yes, she oversaw torture and the destruction of evidence. Sounds like she will fit right in just fine.
Invite Zabaydah onto your yacht, genius.
Slate picked it up yesterday:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/rand-paul-mccain-feinsteins-skeptical-on-gina-haspel-nomination.html
(just happened to notice it)
I'm sure you instead are happy to invite the torturer of Abu Grahib into your villa, Aizino.
Only because someone do not share the cynical and regressive vision of the conserworms world you call them "naive"?
Continue to descend the world into hell. In the battle and after, we teach another lesson on "real world" yours cannot forget.
I could handle anyone from Abu Ghraib.
Look at it this way a person can survive putting underwear on their pate and building human pyramids naked. Cheerleaders build human pyramids all the time.
People generally do not survive what Islamicists do like cutting off their heads or burning them alive.
I do not know why I have to explain such simple things that a two year old would understand but people like Jason and Young Communist do not.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4030583977001/?#sp=show-clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbzsn8V_-yk
https://www.livestrong.com/article/347153-cheerleading-pyramids-for-beginners/
Aizino, you seem raging with anger about liberals , that your gonna have heart attack
Aizino Smith , The "others do it" and "well they did it first" defense is immature at best. That's what many Nazis claimed at Nuremburg (ha, got WWII in there!)
Torture is wrong. It is immoral. It is uncivilized. It's against all the things we believe in. And it doesn't work. People who condone torture are evil and certainly should not be the head of any intelligence agency.
Jason are you saying that the whole Islamic world is not civilized?
In Iran for instance it is civil or civilized to carry out a court verdict and pour acid in a person's eyes.
Civil pretty much is what a group says it is.
When you say civilized you must state which civilization you are talking about.
I think you must stop and define your terms. Look at the Cambridge definition.
"civilized: having a well-developed way of life and social systems:"
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- having an advanced or humane culture, society, etc.
- easy to manage or control; well organized or ordered:
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"If you describe a society as civilized, you mean that it is advanced and has established laws and customs."
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I think using the word advanced is a Western conceit. So if a civilization or group of people has a well developed set of laws, but they do not have "advanced" tech, then they are barbarians?
I think going out and torturing people at random or for the Hell of it is horrible. I think torturing people, when you have time on your hands is terrible. I think people floating at leisure sipping Manhattans telling other people what to do is ridiculous among other things.
I am not saying everything is relative, but maybe you ought to rethink what you think you know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ALcqt6GMhM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civilized
Civilized Origin 1595-1605; < French civiliser; see civil, -ize
Civil origin
1350-1400; Middle English < Latin cīvīlis, equivalent to cīv(is) citizen + -īlis -il
Aizino Smith:
Dude. I'm not going to read all of that. What I said is perfectly clear with no stipulations. It is quite simple. Torture is wrong, it's immoral, it's uncivilized. I don't care if it's Iran, Botswana or the US. It's wrong.
I'm in the US, right in the middle of where it all happens so to speak so I'm obviously more interested in what the US does. I find it completely repugnant that there are those here that talk about "American exceptionalism", how religious they are and how they know how others should think and live but think that torture is OK. The CIA knows it's wrong that's why they use secret torture prisons in other countries. It is disgusting.
It's as simple as that. We should be above that, we are better than that. Time to act like it.
"Dude. I'm not going to read all of that."
Because defining terms is hard. It is typically what is done when starting a new field at college. You choose not to define or unpack the word 'civilized', which is of very recent vintage. We went through the entire ancient and medieval period without it. You will not define it, but merely assert it like you assert many things without proof.
I find it alarming/dismaying that just because the wheel turned or the gears turned on a clock that some think we (the world, this or that country, etc) are more advanced, more refined, more enlightened, smarter, because this year comes after the one before it. Are assuming that enlightenment is monotonically increasing just because the years advanced? How droll.
So there is a linear relationship between the year or calendar date and being civilized / refinement.
This is a 'big idea' so maybe we should call it the 'Big Johnson' rule in your honor!?
y = ax + b or C = a Y + b, where 'C' is the civilization or refinement variable and Y is the Calendar year.
Maybe since the Buddhist year is 2556 perhaps they are more enlightened.
Since the Islamic Calendar is only 354 days perhaps they will shortly surpass us in enlightenment
"The CIA knows it's wrong that's why they use secret torture prisons in other countries. It is disgusting."
Know its' wrong or know that there is a sizable faction of ninnies?
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